New monitor

**deathdoG** · 23-08-2009 10:42 AM

21"+, need recommendations..

Do I need 2ms, or will 5ms do?

Looking at LG 2252TQ-PF currently, need more alternatives.

Thanks in advance

**gaMbLA** · 23-08-2009 11:21 AM

be careful cause brands like samsung measure in grey-to-grey which say 2ms g2g = 4ms black to black.

so make sure 5ms is black to black not grey to grey cause then your really getting 10ms which shows motion trail.

Not a fan of the LG monitors. gotten very average reviews. benq, AOC, or samsung do the job fine.

I would pick out of these ones.

BenQ G2220HD 22in Widescreen LCD Monitor - $219

BenQ G2220HD 22in Widescreen LCD Monitor BenQ G2220HD 22in Widescreen LCD Monitor [G2220HD] - $219.00 : PC Case Gear, Delivering quality computer parts Australia wide

BenQ G2420HD 24in Widescreen LCD Monitor - $299

BenQ G2420HD 24in Widescreen LCD Monitor BenQ G2420HD 24in Widescreen LCD Monitor [G2420HD] - $299.00 : PC Case Gear, Delivering quality computer parts Australia wide

AOC 2434Pw 23.6in Widescreen LCD

AOC 2434Pw 23.6in Widescreen LCD AOC 2434Pw 23.6in Widescreen LCD [2434Pw] - $289.00 : PC Case Gear, Delivering quality computer parts Australia wide

remember make sure your response time (ms) is < 10. and make sure its measured in black to black.

made a mistake with my samsung which was 5ms but was g2g which gave me 10 ms b2b which gives motion trail.

and constrast ratio is always 1000:1, the dynamic ratio which is now like 60000:1 is a gimmick as dynamic doesn't work well at all.

**mookz** · 23-08-2009 11:44 AM

samsung 224bw for >$230 at msy

**Woody** · 23-08-2009 11:47 AM

eh don't get 21" They no good for anything,
Spend that extra $200 And get a "25-30" Because You will not only enjoy it for gaming, but You will also enjoy it for tv. =]

**gaMbLA** · 23-08-2009 11:55 AM

Originally Posted by EUPHOBiA

samsung 224bw for >$230 at msy

I haven't had good experiences with the cheap line 22" samsung monitors.

benq, aoc, are alot better, the more expensive 26+ samsungs are good, but yeh samsung is a little over rated for monitors. not the best image quality.

Also he ment 21" +. if your getting a new monitor stick around 24".

**Crimmy** · 23-08-2009 12:02 PM

I recently got an ASUS VH232H 23inch. I think its decent.

**deathdoG** · 23-08-2009 12:16 PM

tyty

**CuT** · 23-08-2009 12:23 PM

Originally Posted by gaMbLA

BenQ G2220HD 22in Widescreen LCD Monitor - $219

BenQ G2220HD 22in Widescreen LCD Monitor BenQ G2220HD 22in Widescreen LCD Monitor [G2220HD] - $219.00 : PC Case Gear, Delivering quality computer parts Australia wide

I got one of these a few months ago. Its quite a decent monitor. Decent price too.

***Ivo*** · 23-08-2009 02:57 PM

practically no different between [actual] 5ms and 2ms. I survived a long time on 12ms stock acer, worked fine afaik.

Pick a few models you're looking at and hunt around for reviews by users and reviewers, is the best thing to do. Half the time it's impossible to tell monitors apart just by the specs these days anymore.
Whirlpool often has heaps of users reporting back how their monitor puchases went.

Another thing to be wary of is if you want a 16:10 1680x1050, or 16:9 1920x1080
around 22", 23" you can get both resolutions, I think its mostly personal choice which res you want these days

**zELTAH** · 23-08-2009 03:00 PM

Week ago got a 22" Samsung 2243BW SyncMaster... Does well for me xD

**fakeh** · 23-08-2009 03:10 PM

good thread, ill be wanting a new monitor very shortly.

**iRoffle** · 23-08-2009 03:43 PM

i've been looking into a new monitor as well. i'm leading towards the "BenQ E2200HD" or the "BenQ G2220HD".

i've skipped over these: (and a few more)

New monitor
BenQ G2220HD 22-inch LCD monitor - Reviews - Hardware - Monitors - LCD Monitors - PC World
BenQ E2200HD 22in LCD Monitor Review - Monitor Reviews - TrustedReviews

E2200HD has hdmi port and speakers, and doesn't cost that much more but it in reality it's just some gimmicks that i'll probably never use.

choosing hardware is so finicky ~_~ i'll probs be happy with what ever i end up getting though D:

post what monitor you end up choosing and a small review :> (i'll probably do the same)

**gaMbLA** · 23-08-2009 03:48 PM

Originally Posted by zELTAH

Week ago got a 22" Samsung 2243BW SyncMaster... Does well for me xD

I got that monitor, viewing angle isn't good at all, you gotta sit directly in the middle otherwise it darkens on angles, and you get motion trail with 10ms b2b.

colours are ok on it but yeh I don't like 22" resolutions with 1680x1050 as the pixels are way bigger you don't get as a good image quality say on 24" res or 1680x1050 on a smaller screen.

**mookz** · 23-08-2009 04:00 PM

inb4 gambla makes a thead about monitors

**lerelonde** · 23-08-2009 06:26 PM

I use a Samnsung 2443BW, its a great monitor.

**deathdoG** · 24-08-2009 04:10 PM

BenQ G2220HD 21.5in Widescreen LCD Monitor - 5ms - $199

LG 2252TQ-PF 22in - 2ms - $231

Can't decide, need help again.

**scooba** · 24-08-2009 04:12 PM

Originally Posted by deathdoG

BenQ G2220HD 21.5in Widescreen LCD Monitor - 5ms - $199

LG 2252TQ-PF 22in - 2ms - $231

Can't decide, need help again.

I got a benq E2200HD, which i cant see being too much diff from the G2220HD.

And mines awesome, im about to buy a third one.

**deathdoG** · 24-08-2009 04:13 PM

I read that it blurs noticeably in games, confirm deny?

**fatz_mp3s** · 24-08-2009 04:15 PM

confirm, basically all it does is blur

**Jam0864** · 24-08-2009 04:58 PM

Originally Posted by deathdoG

I read that it blurs noticeably in games, confirm deny?

My brother's got one... It's 2ms g2g, I cannot see any blur whatsoever. Looks very nice.

**deathdoG** · 24-08-2009 06:34 PM

Looks like thats the one I'm gonna get

**SHo** · 24-08-2009 07:00 PM

V2400W

Don't be cheap.

**deathdoG** · 24-08-2009 08:15 PM

Hey SHo, FU.

***iRection*** · 24-08-2009 08:21 PM

Originally Posted by deathdoG

Hey SHo, FU.

can you beat his SHO-FU?

**xr6_turbo** · 25-08-2009 05:49 AM

No noticeable difference between 2ms and 5ms and another hint Deathdog...Run it through a DVI lead....digital quality shits over analog vga leads which do create blur no matter what you buy...

DVI > VGA

**NBR** · 25-08-2009 07:34 AM

Originally Posted by xr6_turbo

No noticeable difference between 2ms and 5ms and another hint Deathdog...Run it through a DVI lead....digital quality shits over analog vga leads which do create blur no matter what you buy...

DVI > VGA

Errr sorry, I know I should show more respect to moderators... but that is completely wrong. I can instantly feel the difference in a 2ms and 5ms screen.. the mouse movements feel alot smoother, it basically gives you that "CRT" feel on an LCD. I ESPECIALLY feel the difference seeing as I have my MS3.0E polling rate overclocked at 500Hz. I know these are niggly things, but if you are a high level gamer I HIGHLY recommend paying extra for 2ms. (Feels awesome on 1.6

, Source you don't notice it as much.)

/My input.

+<3 josh

**blisteX** · 25-08-2009 07:37 AM

Spend the little bit of extra dosh and get the 2ms, otherwise you're hindering your performance really.

**deathdoG** · 25-08-2009 10:01 AM

Its pretty much spend 30 dollars to get 2ms, or spend less to get 1080p :s

Still not sure, probably going BenQ atm though

**gaMbLA** · 25-08-2009 10:11 AM

Originally Posted by NBR

Errr sorry, I know I should show more respect to moderators... but that is completely wrong. I can instantly feel the difference in a 2ms and 5ms screen.. the mouse movements feel alot smoother, it basically gives you that "CRT" feel on an LCD. I ESPECIALLY feel the difference seeing as I have my MS3.0E polling rate overclocked at 500Hz. I know these are niggly things, but if you are a high level gamer I HIGHLY recommend paying extra for 2ms. (Feels awesome on 1.6

, Source you don't notice it as much.)

/My input.

+<3 josh

no your wrong, there are no screens I can think of that are 2ms b2b, there all usually 2ms g2g or 4ms-5ms b2b.

g2g is a marketing gimmick.

To some it up go BENQ, both monitors are 2MS G2G which is 5MS B2B.

god some of you are thick and get caught into the marketing gimmicks.

**deathdoG** · 25-08-2009 11:27 AM

Originally Posted by gaMbLA

no your wrong, there are no screens I can think of that are 2ms b2b, there all usually 2ms g2g or 4ms-5ms b2b.

g2g is a marketing gimmick.

To some it up go BENQ, both monitors are 2MS G2G which is 5MS B2B.

god some of you are thick and get caught into the marketing gimmicks.

MSY has discontinued the E2200HD, need to get either the G2220HD / G2220HDA or the LG 2252TQ-PF ><

Any difference between the G2220 and the E2200?

**gaMbLA** · 25-08-2009 12:10 PM

BenQ G2220HD 22in Widescreen LCD Monitor - $219.00 : PC Case Gear, Delivering quality computer parts Australia wide

G2220HD is the new model the E2200HD is the old model and was very average.

Get the new one its pretty much the best in its price.

Benq G2220HD Reviews

reviews on it.

another good monitor that competes with it.

not sure if its in aus though.

http://www.testfreaks.com/monitors/asus-vh222h/

LG is average

http://www.trustedreviews.com/monito...n-L227WT-PF/p1

**Cloudstrike** · 25-08-2009 02:21 PM

For your price range they will all be shit TN panels (look horrible) but they refresh faster so are better for gaming!

**deathdoG** · 25-08-2009 04:50 PM

g2220HD on my desk right now, ty boys, thanks gambla.

**xr6_turbo** · 25-08-2009 05:19 PM

Sweet as..Tell me how you find it....I am on the hunt for some new panels
Costs and Stores would be ideal too.

**iRoffle** · 25-08-2009 05:20 PM

does it show colours and stuff?

**xr6_turbo** · 25-08-2009 05:22 PM

I'd hope so :P
You mean test patterns?

**gaMbLA** · 25-08-2009 06:08 PM

Originally Posted by Cloudstrike

For your price range they will all be shit TN panels (look horrible) but they refresh faster so are better for gaming!

colours arn't best on TN panels I do agree, but the quality of them today are alot better, and getting better, fast response times are needed, S-PVA are for graphic design etc.