GG CSP 1 dayer thanks

[SubNoize]

Please don't delete this post mods, basically thats from a cheating site. Now i don't really believe it considering CMN can be updated at any time and then the above is incorrect.

What it does point out is nothing perfect and some form of protection is better than just "VAC"

EAC is the only one that they say it won't work on, yet if these people coded their own cheats and charge for them. Is there not a good chance they made their own anti cheat (that doesn't use VAC) and they charge for that too?

[davestr1zl]

what does that pic show subnoize, like can you explain it?

does that show that EAC3-proof cheats arent available or that EAC3 doesnt catch any of those cheats or what :S

[11411181]

Aequitas - runs at a higher layer of the operating system. is its main claim to fame. not useable on gotgames and ESL has no plans to expand any time soon to au.
BOE - dead.
CAL-AC - rubbish.
CMN3 ( CEVO ) - probably one of the better anticheats out, despite user issues.
Custodia - does what CMN does, but vastly inferior to.
Cheating-Death - Easily bypassable and has been for a long while yet.
EAC - Injects itself into the client, actually making it possible to be VAC banned. Also not as reliable in detection as CMN/aequitas.
ECO - remnant of BOE league A/C. About as terrible.
ESEA - Same deal with aequitas.
Punkbuster - Not useable.
SSClient - guess what this is!?
sXe-Injected - looks to be a 1.6 anticheat with no relevance to css.
VAC2 - ha.
X-Ray - glorified screenshot client.

EDIT:

You know that picture hasn't been updated in a LONG time now, Subnoize.
You also KNOW that inkajr and smite were caught by CMN after that picture was published. Silly boy :/
That picture really has no purpose now, and I doubt any of the usual sites wish to publically state to prospective clients that their cheats aren't good enough.

[SubNoize]

what does that pic show subnoize, like can you explain it?

does that show that EAC3-proof cheats arent available or that EAC3 doesnt catch any of those cheats or what :S

THE X means there isn't any hacks available for this ANTI Cheat.

Ticks mean they can "bypass" it which i don't believe because people who have purchased this software have been caught.

[davestr1zl]

Also - as another thing related to this comp, i dont understand whatsoever why the whole CEVO thing is used? is this just because of CMN? It makes the comp near impossible to follow in terms of results and such, and i dont really think its good to have results on a seperate site if its not necessary.

But yeh, back to CMN - as you said subnoize nothing is perfect, all anticheats are bypassable. Thats why i rekn its best to have something that works, is usable, and easy to set up and use for the players. Its ability to detect cheaters isnt that relevant as long as it detects like all randy/public cheats imo

[Vanity]

over the last year Ive looked at the organic website about 15 times during the last 2 cevo seasons, and on a regular basis cmn has been by-passable while esea and eac have not been.

[Faded.]

what does that pic show subnoize, like can you explain it?

does that show that EAC3-proof cheats arent available or that EAC3 doesnt catch any of those cheats or what :S

on the horizontal line above (cropped out for obvious reasons) are their 'listed cheats' that you can purchase, this pic basically shows the 'consumers' what cheats of theirs is detected (X) and not detected (TICK) on each of the anti-cheat clients.

[SubNoize]

You know that picture hasn't been updated in a LONG time now, Subnoize.
You also KNOW that inkajr and smite were caught by CMN after that picture was published. Silly boy :/
That picture really has no purpose now, and I doubt any of the usual sites wish to publically state to prospective clients that their cheats aren't good enough.

exactly, thats why i think its worth running CMN.

most people who run EAC won't have vac enabled, so you should be sweet.

cybergamer will be interesting and i love the point spunj made about eac for pug that would be awesome.

[11411181]

over the last year Ive looked at the organic website about 15 times during the last 2 cevo seasons, and on a regular basis cmn has been by-passable while esea and eac have not been.

Yeah, because that picture hasn't been updated since it was first put up on the products page

~_~

[promod4tw]

so many uninformed shit idiots.

I've played cevo a for 2 seasons with CMN and haven't had a single problem with it.

For the idiots who think it lags your connection, you actually need to understand what it does before you make such a blatantly wrong statement.

1. It sends a packet of information to a server which is then stored and checked.
2. This packet of information can be few kilobytes big to a little bit larger.
3. You have the ability to make this smaller through your settings in cmn to the point it sends no more than 3-4k packet sizes and it does this once every now and then

It cannot create a constantly laggy connection, it's completely separate from the game, the only thing it can possibly do is give you a lag spike when it sends a packet to the server which it doesn't do very often in the worst case scenario. This is a fact.

Worst case scenario is as follows.

8kB upload from CSS
5kB upload from Vent
4kB upload from cmn

15kB = 110kb

A 128kb upload is all you need and you shouldn't have a problem.

All the shit idiots who say, CMN is shit easy to bypass and anyone can cheat on it. Go and send your cheat into CEVO and make yourself $250. Stop talking shit and do it. Seriously, why doesn't everyone go and cash in and make yourself an easy $250 if its that easy to break?

It's because its not!

CMN is easy to setup and is a very trusted anti cheat system that has been proven over and over to be effective is the US as well as Australia.

CMN didn't work for one round, other than that worked perfectly. I watched the 3 maps of the final and it worked perfectly for it. Yet, EAC first comp and it was a fucking disaster. Didn't work at fucking all, hasn't caught a single cheat yet in Australia.

I'm going to be playing CS Promod this season because it shits on source and I can't wait for 1.5.

Anyway, gg nordland and thanks GG for running probably the first ProMod comp in the world really well.

[SubNoize]

promod4tw if anyone can bypass cmn the $250 from cevo is nothing compared to the cheating scene. one sale and you have yourself $100....

[azsai]

why do u continue to talk amuseG? go look at a demo or shutup? ur horrible at the game.

[dblstR]

Still makes your game feel jittery, ive been using it since gg first partnered with cevo, it feels jittery like when you demo.

[davestr1zl]

CMN didn't work for one round, other than that worked perfectly. I watched the 3 maps of the final and it worked perfectly for it. Yet, EAC first comp and it was a fucking disaster. Didn't work at fucking all, hasn't caught a single cheat yet in Australia.

well i was playing in that final, and the ONLY reason it 'worked' is because eM allowed 2/5 of our players to not be on it because they physically COULD NOT use it without their cs crashing every minute or 2.

As for the contstant lag spikes, i set my speed in cevo settings to the lowest, and it had no effect, although ive been told of something called netlimiter so might need to try that.

[infzoraN]

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[11411181]

well i was playing in that final, and the ONLY reason it 'worked' is because eM allowed 2/5 of our players to not be on it because they physically COULD NOT use it without their cs crashing every minute or 2.

As for the contstant lag spikes, i set my speed in cevo settings to the lowest, and it had no effect, although ive been told of something cald netlimiter so might need to try that.

That could be any number of things to do with your computer not being able to handle it all properly, not just the anticheat. java applications (what cmn is) aren't nice to run for a small set of computers for unknown reasons, as well as being a pain for a slightly larger subset of users. I know for a fact that my old computer could barely run css, and it just struggled with cmn just open as well.

[SubNoize]

well i was playing in that final, and the ONLY reason it 'worked' is because eM allowed 2/5 of our players to not be on it because they physically COULD NOT use it without their cs crashing every minute or 2.

As for the contstant lag spikes, i set my speed in cevo settings to the lowest, and it had no effect, although ive been told of something called netlimiter so might need to try that.

CMN - GotGames.com.au

(go through that, this information should of been made available to you guys before,considering the 1.6 community wouldn't of seen this)

and i still think theres a need for test servers the day before.

How I fixed my CMN LAG

^^ info on netlimiter

[promod4tw]

You can buy cheats for $20. Just tell CEVO that you are going to use that cheat and boom, you just made yourself $230 and helped make CMN better.....

The trouble is CEVO doesn't brag about CMN, it just bans people and hardly anyone realises who gets banned and that's it so people don't realise just how many people get caught by it.

As for this jittery bs, for example CMN does nothing for 5 minutes, then sends a small packet, then 3 minutes later, sends another small packet, it sends it out random time intervals. Check it out in netlimiter if you don't believe me. Between that time, it cannot do anything to your game. That's all CMN does, sends a packet of information to CEVO servers at random intervals.

The only people who can have problems with it are people like sub who are pushing their connection to the limit and they suffer from bit starvation when it sends out the CMN packet.

[TotalEclipse]

Still makes your game feel jittery, ive been using it since gg first partnered with cevo, it feels jittery like when you demo.

If your game is jittery when you demo I'd recommend upgrading.

[dblstR]

Its always been like this, my pc is more then enough to play source fine. My fps is fine, its just jittery.

[plasmoske]

EAC such a good Anti-Cheat that it doesn't actually support CS:ProMod therefore not making it even considerable for the competition.

i know the developers of eac3 and i could probably ask him to have csp supported
it really not that hard to do. i mean the game is almost exactly css

[Snow]

use paladin or punkbuster please

Snow 2003

[f0oster]

Just wanted to say thanks to the GG team for running that comp, it wasnt perfect but i guess you did the best with what you had and im sure it wasnt easy having to put up with what you did.

In all seriousness though, i honest to god rekn CMN/cevo is the worst thing ever, and im pretty sure no1 from our team will ever be playing a comp that has CMN again its just not worth it. (and ive heard similar things from other teams that i spoke to but who knows). It's just got too many bugs or problems, is way too unreliable. It's also completely dependand on disputes which - as you can see - lead too ridiculous competition delays. EAC or bust imo, if someone wants to cheat badly enough they'll pay for private cmn-proof hacks anyway.

thanks for the comp, and thanks all teams for the games. gg

neither cevo or cmn are unreliable. occasionally, their may be problems, atlhough most of the time they're the fault of the user not following the instructions

if you cannot manage to set up an anti-cheat program correctly then you don't deserve to play in the league.

simple.

also:
gl finding cmn proof cheats. do you really think all those sites advertising cheats private cheats for $20 that "bypass" cmn are reliable? CEVO have just as much access to those cheats as anyone buying them.

[Faded.]

AND THAT'S COMING FROM THE GUY WHO GOT CAUGHT BY IT

[fooUNDERSCORE!!!]

if you cannot manage to set up an anti-cheat program correctly then you don't deserve to play in the league.

good day.

JUDGE NOT, LESS YE BE JUDGED. Oh thats right you took it a step further and cheated. Idiot. You should get the Destiny Crunchy nut ban, 2 years forum and competition.

[f0oster]

JUDGE NOT, LESS YE BE JUDGED. Oh thats right you took it a step further and cheated. Idiot.

regardless, I'm still right

so you can sit here, point your finger and play the blame game all you like, but that wont change anything

lol

[fooUNDERSCORE!!!]

Mate if they expect you to jiggle something a certain way and stick your tongue out to the left while standing on one leg juggling coconuts just to get the thing running with minimal lag, then sure... Everyone should be able to do it.

The fact is, that there is PLENTY of things wrong with CMN, there are some fixes for it and some that they just say woops, deal with it. And not all if any of them are easy to find or put in the face of new members.

I guarantee there are cheats that get passed CMN, yours did for a bit...
Maybe you just needed to toggle it the right way to avoid being banned... Idiot.

I would pick davestrizl (someone who apparently can't set it up) over you (someone who could and abused it) anyday of the week, even when you cheated... You tried to buy his skill, but failed.

[imagoodplayer]

r0f at people thinking cmn is good

[seabo]

hey guyth...DID U ALL FORGET HOW TR0NZ BYPASSED CMN TO WIN CEVO-A ?!!?!? and please dont kid me with, he wasnt cheating that season coz the demo was "inconclusive". yer bru i just flick thru smoke and walls repeatedly and look thru walls in general play no worries bru, ye lets just cheat next season and get caught for teh lulz...YE NAH!

[Azza.]

hey guyth...DID U ALL FORGET HOW TR0NZ BYPASSED CMN TO WIN CEVO-A ?!!?!? and please dont kid me with, he wasnt cheating that season coz the demo was "inconclusive". yer bru i just flick thru smoke and walls repeatedly and look thru walls in general play no worries bru, ye lets just cheat next season and get caught for teh lulz...YE NAH!

Didn't he also play half a season of i before quitting, coming back and being caught in an odc?

tldr; CMN is not that good.

[Muggie]

an AntiCheat is an AntiCheat which is meant for AntiCheating. CMN gives me lag spikes sometimes, shit happens. EAC fucks up for me sometimes, shit happens. Just use what the competition provider uses, its not that hard.

[HawX]

an AntiCheat is an AntiCheat which is meant for AntiCheating. CMN gives me lag spikes sometimes, shit happens. EAC fucks up for me sometimes, shit happens. Just use what the competition provider uses, its not that hard.

WUT DOEZ TH1Z BUTT0N D0 MUGGIE?