[Valve] Protect Competitive Play

[Naykd]

Why ruin Competitive Source ... - Steam Users' Forums

lel i put in support ticket and made thread4lols

Good idea - and get as many people as you can to support your idea in the thread - maybe in the 1000s

[ShemPZ]

I don't know why you're all so spewing. Sure the FIRST TIME you play you'll get spammed with a few achievements but after a few games you will hardly get them ~ever~ and the only thing you will notice will be the player/MVP info and cinematic cams which tbh will just be points for fun vent banter "MAN IM ALWAYS THE MVP U GUYZEZ SUK!".

It's so typical of the source community to shoot the idea down and act like wankers on the valve forum. Get over it and enjoy the fact that the game might be interesting again for a few days.

[iRoffle]

ohgod~

[DarKcS]

and the only thing you will notice will be the player/MVP info and cinematic cams which tbh will just be points for fun vent banter "MAN IM ALWAYS THE MVP U GUYZEZ SUK!".

I'm sure I'll have screenshots of dominating all 5 players in a scrim and be like LOLOLOL.
<In reality, was playing bots>

[<^>]

I don't know why you're all so spewing. Sure the FIRST TIME you play you'll get spammed with a few achievements but after a few games you will hardly get them ~ever~ and the only thing you will notice will be the player/MVP info and cinematic cams which tbh will just be points for fun vent banter "MAN IM ALWAYS THE MVP U GUYZEZ SUK!".

It's so typical of the source community to shoot the idea down and act like wankers on the valve forum. Get over it and enjoy the fact that the game might be interesting again for a few days.

wouldnt it be better if they just made a different game... that way they make more money and we can choose, not be forced out of our ways we've had for the last 5 years.

[DarKcS]

And split the community even more? That's an even worse idea tbh.
Most of this stuff is going to effect pub gamers, killcam will be disabled on scrim/pug servers etc, scoreboard? Fuck off it's a scoreboard. If interpolate gets improved it's win win.

[ShemPZ]

wouldnt it be better if they just made a different game... that way they make more money and we can choose, not be forced out of our ways we've had for the last 5 years.

That would be better but unless there was a whole lot more to the update it wouldn't be worth a new game and no one would buy it anyway. At valve they're updating games AND making games at the same time, so I don't think we're really losing out anywhere by this coming out just in an update anyway. Maybe they need an option to turn off killcams/new scoreboard/achievs to make everyone happy, and maybe they are bringing that out? I Honestly haven't played it yet though so I can't really speak that much about it.

[NotmisT]

down with this beta

[Fletch]

The problem is that Valve have not done this. Hidden Path Studios have. By the looks of it they have never even played the game let alone conducted any decent research into what players want.
Any of the decent programmers in this community could do what they've done so far if they had access to the source code.

[ShemPZ]

The problem is that Valve have not done this. Hidden Path Studios have. By the looks of it they have never even played the game let alone conducted any decent research into what players want.
Any of the decent programmers in this community could do what they've done so far if they had access to the source code.

You forget who the players are. Gotgames competetive players: a few hundred. Pub preb players: a few thousand. They design for the majority.

Of course I'm making it all up and I could be completely wrong sooooo...

[TUZHEL -_^]

No shempz wtf is wrong with it the way it is? ITS FUCKING FINE HOW DOES IT MAKE IT MORE INTRESTING THEN IT ALREADY IS....?As pez stated in that thread on steam either make a new Cs:4KIDS or leave ours the fuck alone.It's simple, this new css looks like its made for kids, deathcam on CSS is a type of Ghosting and is stupid.

I'm also intrested to know if these updates effect your FPS in anyway.ty

[SubNoize]

You forget who the players are. Gotgames competetive players: a few hundred. Pub preb players: a few thousand. They design for the majority.

Of course I'm making it all up and I could be completely wrong sooooo...

Err, Source probably has one of the biggest competitive communities world wide than any other fps. Simply because of the amount of people who play and how hard it is for people to come into the game.

http://www.steampowered.com/stats/

So you have 2 games, TF2 and L4D2 which are massive pub games and they don't even come close if you combine them in terms of players on a day by day basis. Half the pubbers are in "clans" and occasionally war, they just aren't as competitive yet.

[ShemPZ]

There is nothing wrong with the way it is, but there is nothing wrong with where it is going either. You guys are just getting overhyped about trivial little things that will pop up for 3 seconds at the end of a round. build a bridge.

This is assuming they fix everything to be exactly like css atm btw (recoil/strafing etc.)

[SubNoize]

There is nothing wrong with the way it is, but there is nothing wrong with where it is going either. You guys are just getting overhyped about trivial little things that will pop up for 3 seconds at the end of a round. build a bridge.

This is assuming they fix everything to be exactly like css atm btw (recoil/strafing etc.)

I think while we have the chance and the devs are paying attention we should all cry and get as much fixed as we can.

Rather than shut up and just accept it, then find out what problems it causes later. If you took a second you'd realise most people aren't against achievements. They are just against how they were implemented (e.g. mid round they popup, making a connection to a steam server, making lag - this also creates a cheer sound which overwhelms all other sounds and the dialogue blocks a portion of the screen).

[James]

I honestly see nothing wrong with it except for a few changes to strafing and recoil, who gives a shit, the game is old, the only annoying thing might be the achievements popping up in an important game. But lets face it the game gets more boring day by day, a little change if anything will keep players interested, adapt and move on imo

[f0oster]

I think while we have the chance and the devs are paying attention we should all cry and get as much fixed as we can.

Rather than shut up and just accept it, then find out what problems it causes later. If you took a second you'd realise most people aren't against achievements. They are just against how they were implemented (e.g. mid round they popup, making a connection to a steam server, making lag - this also creates a cheer sound which overwhelms all other sounds and the dialogue blocks a portion of the screen).

In tf2/l4d they can be disabled by server cvar. I assume CSS will not be an exception. I wouldn't worry about it.

[<^>]

think your missing the point, source is an extremely broken game, but it works decent enough for competitive play to be enjoyable AND the graphics don't look too bad. It does not need a "quick fix-kiddie version"

[f0oster]

think your missing the point, source is an extremely broken game, but it works decent enough for competitive play to be enjoyable AND the graphics don't look too bad. It does not need a "quick fix-kiddie version"

na im not missing the point i made an entire thread about it.

im just saying it wont actually effect comp source

[ShemPZ]

think your missing the point, source is an extremely broken game, but it works decent enough for competitive play to be enjoyable AND the graphics don't look too bad. It does not need a "quick fix-kiddie version"

It doesn't need it (even though I think saying that it is an "extremely broken game" means it does), but that doesn't mean it's a bad thing. Just like black and white TV worked decent enough back in the day, but I like my colour tv now.

I'm just not seeing the downside yet!

[DarkstaR]

as some other ppl have said on other forums etc, acheivements etc in l4d2 and tf2 can be turned off via console, there is no reason why this wont be the same for the the new css.

but until its 100% known i am going to fully reserve my decision

[azitiz91]

all the creative maps will be fucked LOL

minigames bhopping etc

LOL

[Zakk[t].]

Not after the 12 point infraction.

[leV]

All the TF2 shit just doesn't suit CSS lol.

[PowerCrunch]

everyone should come back to 1.6. :>

[leV]

everyone should come back to 1.6. :>

Negbl

[<^>]

everyone should come back to 1.6. :>

I'd actually go to 1.6 if there was a large enough community, but as has been recently posted would want an Anticheat running for every scrim, i actually prefer 1.6 over cspromod for the moment

[Sove]

Done.

[sjn]

Done.

[scaR]

If you think you are going to get a reply at all let alone a reply from Gabe himself you are severely deranged.

Props for making the effort and all but

I've also emailed gabe before and he did reply. Took sometime and it was a short email, but yes he does actually reply!

[horizo[n]]

As long as I can quickswitch and awp while doing backflips through smokes, I've got no problems with the new update. (Providing the speed and nade shit gets fixed)

[pixeL]

I think they should let us use sv_cheats all the time, like set it auto to 1 that way no one is disadvantaged????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????? LOL

[Adverage]

its sad to think that a new version of css will ruin the game, people thought the same thing when CSS was released. The first couple of versions always arent going to be perfect, just like csp.

[downcast]

Protect yourself off a cliff, an engine update will be good for competitive source.
They'll be giving cvars to turn all the shitty sounds, the only change is that the game will be on a better engine. Also all the achievements and shit should draw in some fresh blood which will eventually increase the competitive player base. I don't know why everyones being so melodramatic, the only downside i can see is that it will probably break a whole lot of 3rd party mods (warmod, sm etc.) and it will defiantly break demos.

[Desea]

Protect yourself off a cliff, an engine update will be good for competitive source.
They'll be giving cvars to turn all the shitty sounds, the only change is that the game will be on a better engine. Also all the achievements and shit should draw in some fresh blood which will eventually increase the competitive player base. I don't know why everyones being so melodramatic, the only downside i can see is that it will probably break a whole lot of 3rd party mods (warmod, sm etc.) and it will defiantly break demos.

finally someone said it

nice dc

[stEdy_]

omg death camera? WHAT IS THIS FUCKING COD OMG!

Must be hard keeping things in perspective from inside your boxes