Octinium Instructions

[corona]

OCTINIUM MUST BE USED FOR ALL GG-I WARS STARTING THIS WEEK (with net_graphpos 2)

Please download Octinium from here;
http://www.teamcovex.com/downloads/octinium/

Correct settings for Octinium (Remember you need to change this setting everytime you run octinium);

640X480 - Left 230 Top 1
800X600 - Left 315 Top 60
1024X768 - Left 430 Top 220
1152X864 - Left 490 Top 260
1280X1024 - Left 550 Top 440
1600X1200 - Left 700 Top 580

An example of the Octinium avi can be looked at here;
http://www.teamcovex.com/cxmedia/octinium%20example.avi

There has been a lot of talk regarding the use of Octinium during the GG-i matches to ensure that people are not cheating. Octinium is a small program which is run in the background. It takes screenshots of the player's screen at random intervals. It then compiles it into an avi file for review. Octinium uses minimal resources and should not cause any lag during gameplay.

From this we will be able to assess if a person is in breach of the rules. If you refer to the ruleset, the relevant rules are;
GotGames Counter Strike Source Ruleset

GAME EXPLOITS & CHEATS:
Include, but are not limited to, those specified in the appendix.
2. Any 3rd party application either used as a hook or modified to gain an unfair advantage.
5. Any modifications to the Counter Strike directory that gives an unfair advantage. This includes, but is not limited to, "Sound-packs", "No-Smoke-Sprites" and "Rate Scripts".

Please refer to the appendix for a list of known cheats. However, the ruleset includes, but is not limited to these infractions.

CHEATING EXPANDED:
No Cheats of any kind are to be used in the GotGames Counter-Strike:Source League in any way, shape, manner or form. Punishment is permanent, no cheating player(s) will be unbanned ever. Cheating players will never be allowed to compete in any Gotgames event of any kind ever again. It is the captains' and the Teams players responsibility to ensure that their team complies with this rule. The cheating player(s) in question will be permanently banned from all GotGames dedicated servers including public servers and competition servers. Only the player(s) proven by evidence to have cheated (at any point upon GotGames servers) will be permanently banned. Cheating Includes, but is not limited to:
1) using 3rd party programs to gain an unfair advantage
2) modifying your cs files to gain an unfair advantage
3) modifying your config to gain an unfair advantage
4) modifying a 3rd party application (including but not limited to directx drivers) to reduce the opaqueness of smoke sprites or effects of flashbangs or any other game effect

Examples of cheating are;
* map hacking (wall hacks, etc)
* cvars that attempt to bypass any Client Side settings put in place by GotGames - ie. polyoffset and whitewalls
* wireframe drivers
* colored models
* enlarged player model heads

UPDATED RULESET
The ruleset will be updated accordingly. Players will have 24 hours (from their match time) to submit their Octinium avis. Initially, we will allow some flexibility as this is a new process, and we understand that people may forget or may be unfamiliar with the process. But as the weeks go by, we will be more strict with how we enforce the submission of Octinium movies and the timeframe in which they are submitted.

PROCESS FOR TEAM CAPTAINS
All Octinium demos must be submitted in the match disputes thread;
http://www.gotgames.com.au/forums/a-50/

The Captain of each team is to create a thread highlightling the teams submission of Octinium movies. From there, each member who played in the match, will post and submit their movies.

HOW TO SUBMIT YOUR OCTINIUM MOVIE
1) First locate your avi file in your octinium folder.
2) You will then need to upload it to webspace. For those who don't have webspace use http://yousendit.com
3) Then your post.

The match disputes admin (either Def|ler or scaR) will then confirm once a team has submitted all 5 Octinium demos. A teams result will not be allowed usless all 5 Octinium demos are submitted.

I will be updating the ruleset to reflect this news post.

Thanks.

[retaliation]

ooooOOOOOOOOOoooo Huge news.

I have a feeling some people wont be playing in GG-i as good as they used to.

EDIT: Links are zombie-like for me. Start downloading (after a while) but cut out half way through.

[MakaZe]

lol ret, i reckon ur right on the mark there :P
good to see such great anti hacking mesures huge news for LEGITIMATE competitive source

[billy baxter]

Well done Gotgames

[Twelve-60]

This is good news for competitive source.

- Twelve-60

[yobobo]

nevermind..

[mashy]

ooooOOOOOOOOOoooo Huge news.

I have a feeling some people wont be playing in GG-i as good as they used to.

EDIT: Links are zombie-like for me. Start downloading (after a while) but cut out half way through.

I hope that isn't true.

Good move. There are a few more anti-cheat measures out there - 1 especially good one - I will pm corona tonight with it. No need for players to do anything with it as it is solely server based - you will not know what it does and what it can check for ...

[sexehboi]

Octinium takes screenshots at random intervals during the game and compiles them into a .AVI file? Wouldn't it be quite easy for someone with video editing skills to record a demo, play the demo back without what ever cheat they may be using and take screenshots at random intervals then make their own video?

I've planned ^^

[retaliation]

Octinium takes screenshots at random intervals during the game and compiles them into a .AVI file? Wouldn't it be quite easy for someone with video editing skills to record a demo, play the demo back without what ever cheat they may be using and take screenshots at random intervals then make their own video?

I've planned ^^

It records your crosshair, timer on the bottom, and soon to be required net_graphpos 2 (to verify that you aren't just watching over a demo with no hacks on).

Nice try.

[Vulkan_]

Mirror: http://ez-files.net/download.php?file=923b9e0d

[sexehboi]

Nice try.

Didn't see that in the post =]

[jt_]

used to be something like this in 1.6 called cheaterlog, it found to lagg everyones CS though. hopefully the same doesnt occur with this.

[sexehboi]

I hope that isn't true.

Good move. There are a few more anti-cheat measures out there - 1 especially good one - I will pm corona tonight with it. No need for players to do anything with it as it is solely server based - you will not know what it does and what it can check for ...

Pervert.

[retaliation]

Didn't see that in the post =]

Its not. FWUAH.

I've planned ^^

[corona]

I hope that isn't true.

Good move. There are a few more anti-cheat measures out there - 1 especially good one - I will pm corona tonight with it. No need for players to do anything with it as it is solely server based - you will not know what it does and what it can check for ...

I know of cheater log - however, people complained because it lagged whilst they were uploading the screenshot to the server - and that was for CS1.6/CZ. Anyhow, I don't want to discourage. I will look into any anti cheat suggestions thoroughly.

Thanks Mashy.

[xruptince]

wicked, this has helped me get 99% headshots in cs:s now, im just a mammoth of a player now, people will call me the unstoppable mammoth

[Mo3]

I have already been using octi in our gs war last night and whilst in pub over the weekend. I didnt notice any lag.

[DeSiRE]

thats awsome...but how can it make it into a avi...like so its more of a slide show then a fps movie?

[DeSiRE]

and wot if ppl go oh..i forgot to record? also the fact that if somone is no smoke spriting, how would u no that theres suppose to be a smoke present since u cnt see it :S i mean colored models easily seen, but no smoke spriting i duno how ud find that one, unless u review the demo to the exact moment i gues that would work lol i just answered my own question, but tell me theres a better way

[nuk3]

and wot if ppl go oh..i forgot to record? also the fact that if somone is no smoke spriting, how would u no that theres suppose to be a smoke present since u cnt see it :S i mean colored models easily seen, but no smoke spriting i duno how ud find that one, unless u review the demo to the exact moment i gues that would work lol i just answered my own question, but tell me theres a better way

The best thing about Octinium is that it makes using wallhacks a game of Russian Roulette, due to the completely random nature of the screenshots being taken. But as you mentioned, it's certainly not a be all to end all anti-cheat measure.

[doDGy]

oh noes

[retaliation]

and wot if ppl go oh..i forgot to record?

Same as Gamespace where if you dont take a status screenshot or set your STEAM_ID to your profile; the respective team forfeits the match.

[doe]

This is good news for competitive source.

[Whisper]

Good Work Corona

Wish we could do it as well

I wonder just how much this will cause the balance of skill levels to shift?

The only problems I am aware of is that certain cheat programs maybe able to dodge the screen capture point in time as they actively monitor it and disable themselves each and every time.

Also, it doesn't detect aimbots.

It is a start I guess.

[nuk3]

Good Work Corona

Wish we could do it as well

I wonder just how much this will cause the balance of skill levels to shift?

The only problems I am aware of is that certain cheat programs maybe able to dodge the screen capture point in time as they actively monitor it and disable themselves each and every time.

Also, it doesn't detect aimbots.

It is a start I guess.

It's enough to at least shake things up, and the more one has to worry about things, the more likely they are to slip up.

[DeSiRE]

Good Work Corona

Wish we could do it as well

I wonder just how much this will cause the balance of skill levels to shift?

The only problems I am aware of is that certain cheat programs maybe able to dodge the screen capture point in time as they actively monitor it and disable themselves each and every time.

Also, it doesn't detect aimbots.

It is a start I guess.

ur right, it probz cnt detect some stuff as i mentioned as well, but its better then nothing good job id also like to see the skills change as well

[Twelve-60]

I'm pretty sure the SourceTV would detect most aimbots pretty fine.

- Twelve-60

[shadowhawk]

should have been brought in at the start.

i reckon theres a player or 2 who will start to play quite a bit worse now.

[sexehboi]

I doubt anyone playing in GGi would be aimbotting lol...

[peedee]

Good news, and about time.

Just 1 question though,

3) modifying your config to gain an unfair advantage

Does this include things such as removing bushes etc in the name of fps, I know i used to have a command to remove such things on my old poobrand comps autoexec.

Say someone was hiding in a bush, and it isnt there on your screen.. Unfair advantage?

Does this mean everyone in GGi must run a standard/minimal graphics cfg? Because i know some people will have quite some trouble.

[Strik3r]

bleh.. doubt this will make much of a difference.. just seems like another pain in the ass thing to have to do.

[nuk3]

Good news, and about time.

Just 1 question though,

3) modifying your config to gain an unfair advantage

Does this include things such as removing bushes etc in the name of fps, I know i used to have a command to remove such things on my old poobrand comps autoexec.

Say someone was hiding in a bush, and it isnt there on your screen.. Unfair advantage?

Does this mean everyone in GGi must run a standard/minimal graphics cfg? Because i know some people will have quite some trouble.

Holy crap man, you just gave away Livid's #1 Inferno CT Strat of camping the bushes at CT spawn with an awp watching fountain. :/

[peedee]

lol, i know it doesnt happen often, but theres no reason it cant :P

[retaliation]

The only problems I am aware of is that certain cheat programs maybe able to dodge the screen capture point in time as they actively monitor it and disable themselves each and every time.

Yes new multihacks like HL2Hook can detect screenshots ingame and I believe some can also detect the printscreen button, however afaik Octinium bypasses both methods. Obviously they wont tell you how it takes the screenshots because that means someone can just code a detection method.

[DeSiRE]

things like the shouldnt matter, coz ppl have different comps anyways so long as the advantage isnt extreme...no bushes barely affects gameplay, u probz try and camo in the busg 1/999 times u play

[corona]

Yes new multihacks like HL2Hook can detect screenshots ingame and I believe some can also detect the printscreen button, however afaik Octinium bypasses both methods. Obviously they wont tell you how it takes the screenshots because that means someone can just code a detection method.

Well if someone sends an Octinium avi file which contains no screenshots then you know something dodgy is going on... right?

[retaliation]

Well if someone sends an Octinium avi file which contains no screenshots then you know something dodgy is going on... right?

No you misunderstood... it detects the screenshot and the hack automatically toggles off so an uncompromising screenshot is taken.

But yeah, apparantly Octinium's screenshot method is undetectable by hooks.

[iskra]

Holy crap man, you just gave away Livid's #1 Inferno CT Strat of camping the bushes at CT spawn with an awp watching fountain. :/

there are bushes at ct spawn?

And doesnt some servers block some of those commands any way? like u cant remove rain on aztec on some servers

[Watto]

Cool! this is great news

[JPEGZ]

Well, great news as Twelve-60 said