SnD or 4v4

**Twilife** · 26-02-2010 01:05 PM

In the end it's all about the money? India paying huge for players to come over, ICC wanting more money + fans so they'll go 20/20's way. It's sad but true. I still like budgey's quote

**Fray Woodzy** · 26-02-2010 01:20 PM

Yer for most money is more important, hence why I said its gunna be hard for use to match cg unless activision gives u a lifeline. So why not take the easier and quicker option of investing in 4v4 before cg does. People want money correct, so u throw 1200 plus in a 4v4 comp u therfore are beating cg in the 4v4 department and because u will be first to do it, unless cg beats ur cash then u will be regarded as the more important and sucessful because u done it first.

Im gunna level with u twi and dazed, its a big leap for use I know but I can't see any other option atm.

Use have gotta trust me because I know it will work and be sucessful and good for GG.

Many people and in that list is over 3/4 of the top cod teams questioned me when mw2 came out when I consistantly said perks wouldn't work. I got hassled for weeks about perks and people kept throwing perk rulesets at me and I continually proved to them I was right that perks are both bad and easily cheatable.

Eventually rohizzle sumhow seen me as good imput and I helped with the current cg ruleset which is almost perfect. People still had querries and tested em out in the christmas comp which failed miserably.

So all along even though I was getting told I was wrong etc etc I kept pesisting and I was proven correct. I have the same faith that the same will happen here. U guys know it could work but don't wanna put all ur eggs in the 4v4 baskett as most don't think its proved its succesfullness yet.

So trust me as I wouldn't be hassling so much in here like I was on cg with snd if I didn't think I was 100% right.

Im that confident it will be succesfull that if it isnt ill fucking throw $1000 of my own money into a diff GG comp lol

**zzzzz** · 26-02-2010 02:02 PM

Why don't you think ACL have adopted our ruleset of 5v5?

Because its not exciting and face paced, no sponsores want to spectator a slow paced game.. yes clutching in SnD is intense at times but team work, individual clutch plays, teams comms, team chemistry plays a huge part in 4v4's to win matches.

**Twilife** · 26-02-2010 02:15 PM

Those things play a huge part in all rulesets, video-games and even Pictionary. Might be a little less clutching in Pictionary though.

I think ACL didn't adopt the 5v5 SND ruleset because they saw competitiveness elsewhere in 4v4 and saw it superior to 5v5 SND. Sooo...?

***Dazed*** · 26-02-2010 02:17 PM

Plus ACL runs halo comps and they have no S&D so who knows. Maybe the ACL guys dont even know what it is..

If you're saying the these ACL people are the all knowing powers and we should follow their every move as they are the chosen ones then just stop.

**zzzzz** · 26-02-2010 02:36 PM

There is SnD in 4v4.. Demo, CTF and SnD.

I used ACL as an example like you used a completely different game as an example.

***Dazed*** · 26-02-2010 02:44 PM

i would hardly call that S&D, its just run n gun without respawns.

**zzzzz** · 26-02-2010 02:46 PM

Well its actually more intense then a repetitive 20-24 rounds of SnD.

***Dazed*** · 26-02-2010 02:47 PM

there was nothing intense about S&D when i played it at GoSolid. After it we all agreed it shouldnt be on the cards coz its a joke.

**Swan** · 26-02-2010 02:53 PM

Originally Posted by Twilife

In the end it's all about the money? India paying huge for players to come over, ICC wanting more money + fans so they'll go 20/20's way. It's sad but true. I still like budgey's quote

ahahah i thought bout that the other day.

20/20 wat the new generation/crowd wana see.
4v4 Wat alot of poeple wana see as its fast and flowing.

One day games - Old and arnt going to last long as no fan intrest
Snd - Too long, boring + slow.

thats the way i look at it.

+ 4v4 you only need 1/2/no subs

Wich could result in alot more Great teams as players wich would normally be core 5 ( 5th player) would want to join start another team wich other 5th wich would result in alot more active strong teams.

***Dazed*** · 26-02-2010 02:56 PM

Are we being overrun by toddlers with the attention span of.... well.... a toddler now.

"S&D is too slow and boring"

Its that damn internet I say!

**Swan** · 26-02-2010 02:57 PM

Originally Posted by Dazed

Are we being overrun by toddlers with the attention span of.... well.... a toddler now.

"S&D is too slow and boring"

Its that damn internet I say!

Soz bro been at TAFE all day wbu?

***Dazed*** · 26-02-2010 02:59 PM

Yeah been working u know.. umm shit what are those things called that you get when you finish school.....

aaaah, oh thats right an Apprenticeship. I think you're running out of material swan.

**Swan** · 26-02-2010 03:04 PM

Originally Posted by Dazed

Yeah been working u know.. umm shit what are those things called that you get when you finish school.....

aaaah, oh thats right an Apprenticeship. I think you're running out of material swan.

oh my bad forgot dazed i didnt no got games admin was a job anyways i wont make my examples involve sports cauz you dont no really anything bout that oh well then.

+ talking to Woodz in ya team right now rekons you have been online all day dazed thats a bit embarrasing i think you should get a ban for lying just like buzn.

+ Quote for Woodz - How could dazed get a job he droped out in year 8

i dont know if this is true just goin of wat little woodz said.

***Dazed*** · 26-02-2010 03:08 PM

Yeah swan you're right on the money, Got Games offered me an apprenticeship as an Admin for xbox cod. /sarcasm

I'm actually an Apprentice mechanic and the shop I work at is on hols while the boss is overseas. Maybe you should've asked Woodz that but then again, woodz doesnt know anything so really it'd be pointless.

Maybe you should spend more time trying to form a good argument for why 4v4 is superior rather than taking the low road and ATTEMPTING to insult me.

As for sports, i could say the same thing about you and motorsport or cars in general. Take a hint and either get lost or post on topic.

**Swan** · 26-02-2010 03:11 PM

My old man is a mechanic + did work experiance for 2 years as school course + i could guarenntee i know morew about u when it comes to cars.

U called me a toddler - wat did i say b4 that dazed.......

Unlucky Mate.

**Fray Woodzy** · 26-02-2010 03:12 PM

hahaha fuk of swanny i didnt say that haah

woodz

***Dazed*** · 26-02-2010 03:14 PM

Originally Posted by Dazed

Are we being overrun by toddlers with the attention span of.... well.... a toddler now.

"S&D is too slow and boring"

Its that damn internet I say!

Notice the use of a plural noun.

and the fact that i didnt quote your post specifically i simply added quotation marks to my own quote.

think maybe you need to get a little less self conscious.

**x kryptoN x** · 26-02-2010 03:16 PM

i love it when buzzin says he hates soundwhores but whenever i play GB with him he's got his astros on cranked hearing ppl who run ninja pro.

Whenever we played 5v5 he'd always have his ax360s on like 10 everything besides vibration

haha <3

Soundwhoring isnt an issue for 5v5 because every player at the top level has a headset or at least surround sound, so its a skill to move around the map stealthly or to use their sound correctly

GG now is just a second rate version of CG

Do somthing to get some serious attention,pay attention to whats happening in the community rather then telling people whats more competitive or what to play.

Whats the point of having a vote if the admins are just going to tell us what you play anyway?

***Dazed*** · 26-02-2010 03:19 PM

I think some of you maybe have misunderstood this thread. Woodzy started one but didnt add a poll. He asked me to and as i couldnt add it to his already made topic i started my own, Copy/pasted and quoted his original and added the options he wants to the poll.

This was simply woodzy's thread for discussion, not what GG wanted to know from everyone on an official scale.

**Swan** · 26-02-2010 03:19 PM

Dazed why did ou post that anyway keep it to yourself mate all you post is shit if i was new to this site i wouldnt even think your a admin from all the pointless shit you post

**rap_2nd** · 26-02-2010 03:33 PM

Originally Posted by x kryptoN x

Soundwhoring isnt an issue for 5v5 because every player at the top level has a headset or at least surround sound,

You'd think so ey. lol

**Buzzin** · 26-02-2010 04:34 PM

krypton its not a skill to crouch around the whole map. Its boring and slow paced every time you spec someone and they touch tin or grass in this game your pretty much f**** its a joke tbh. 4v4 is what the other countries have been playing now since cod4 why cant we just adapt & adopt? Everyone is so scared of a change.

**Twilife** · 26-02-2010 04:53 PM

Originally Posted by x kryptoN x

Do somthing to get some serious attention,pay attention to whats happening in the community rather then telling people whats more competitive or what to play.

Whats the point of having a vote if the admins are just going to tell us what you play anyway?

Yeah, there is no official vote. And you can't really not tell people what's more competitive or what to play. Opinions differ. If we fully back 4v4, we're telling people what to play and what is most competitive (just like people have been yelling at me here) - upsetting people who would prefer SND be the highlight, and visa versa. Some people will be jumping with glee, some people will be fuming with rage. It's what happens.

**Buzzin** · 26-02-2010 04:54 PM

thing is even if you make it 4v4 people are still going to play it for the $$$

**Twilife** · 26-02-2010 04:58 PM

Yeah, you could prob say the same for any ruleset - aslong as it has the $$$ backing it.

**Fray Woodzy** · 26-02-2010 05:31 PM

Dazed we all know u dont like 4v4 but uve barely touched it, u played at gosolid where ryano said the most intense gametype was headquarters lol so safe to say that it wasnt succesful. U played everygametype not 4v4. It wasnt even 4v4 it was 5v5 lol.

U can keep knocking it back dazed but the way things are on here you will have little to no interest. Start listning to what people want rather then investing in your own interests.

Spoke to twi and he openly admited that GG was as fucked as anna nicole lol after i claimed it was as fucked as brittany spears.

And incase some of u dont know who anna nicole is well shes dead thats all that matter so your own fellow admin said GG was dead more or less

**Swan** · 26-02-2010 05:51 PM

hit nail on head woodzy

**Twilife** · 26-02-2010 06:10 PM

Myes. Well I was joking at the severity, because we're all here talking (aka GG being alive). I wouldn't have thought that comment quotable but here you are! It was a bad analogy nonetheless, Anna Nicole can't come back to life, but GG can (presuming it was dead).