SnD or 4v4

[Fray Woodzy]

I voted SnD straight up - But reading what Woodzy and friends have had to say, they've brought up some pretty valid points. GG really does have to devote all of it's interest into 4v4 if they don't want to go down in the CoD4 history books of a good version of AXB.

HAHA i must be right if goose is agreeing as me and him usually never see eye to eye

[Twilife]

GG will not be devoting all of it's interest into 4v4. Sweet?

[zzzzz]

Not if we have admins like you.

[Fray Woodzy]

Rohizzle and his dandy men will therefore remain supreme in every gametype and every game.

What does dandy mean anyway lol just popped into me head

[Dazed]

Good for Rohizle.

[~kritikal]

who is rohizle

[Swan]

The thing is copying there ruleset isn't going to help us.. because of the lag we will never be able to play against them or with them properly. Gamebattles gives Aussies losses because they are that stupid that they think us lagging is our advantage.

Unless by some miracle 1 team gets chosen to fly over there and verse them but i can't see it happening.

Run both ladders. If the 4v4 ladder is made the main ladder then you will get about 5 or 6 of the best teams join and about 2 of them will put enough effort in to win.

i have been talking to GB stealth and he said if my Aus GB makes playoofs wich we should we will be playing on a server most likey so we dont get a early exit over lag.

[THE DECEPTIC0NS]

Rohizzle and his dandy men will therefore remain supreme in every gametype and every game.

What does dandy mean anyway lol just popped into me head

Lol, awesome.

4v4 is the way of the future. Its a close argument about whats more competitive, 4v4 is the more natural free flowing gametype that CoD is meant to be. Not many teams put that much effort into it atm but that is changing with the rise of the ACL and the 1 day CG/ACL comps. Search has become boring to a lot of teams and a 4v4 comp on GG could be the breath of life it needs. MW would definitely play in 4v4 but most likely wouldnt make the effort for search anymore.
I plan on attending ACL events but unfortunately my team wouldnt be able to make it (2 from NZ, 2 <16) so well be looking to have a crack on the 4v4 online comps.

[Dazed]

seems to me as tho these ACL guys are trying to turn CoD into Halo...

[Butler]

Dazed is just scared to move to 4v4 because he knows his team wont have a chance Plus hed have to actually out skill someone not just hear them.

Call me a fish because i just cant help myself.

Buzzin oh buzzin. Only reason you are any good at 4v4 is because you play it and put more effort in than anyone else. The two guns i have seen you use are the Famas and the ACR.. surely someone of your shooting ability can use a gun thats not stupidly OP? unless you need to use those guns for some reason.

You and your buddy swan continuously blame sound as the reason why snd fails. When sound has nothing to do with it, you yourself have astros.

As for how iNS. will go in 4v4.. who knows?? we have never put in the effort but if players shots are anything to go by then im sure we will do just fine.

Peace

[PsYch0ticAu55ie]

Na butler your bad

[rap_2nd]

oi everyone, I'm having Butler's babies so back the fuck off!

Fitzy, stop sounding like me! gosh

[Fray Woodzy]

How so dazed? People go to lans to see exciting gameplay and if it was just snd then it would be 3 mins of excitement and 40 mins of people slowly walking and waiting for the attacking team to peak.

4v4 is run and gun with mayb 1 camper per team to hold their flag etc.

4v4 is 10 times more exciting than snd, unless some1 is clutching in snd than that's good to watch. But generall seach gameplay is bit tideous to watch.

Bio can just kick back and relax whilst shoutcasting search unless there's like a huge rush he ca take his time etc, 4v4 he's gotta be paying attention cause lots of doubles go on and plenty of quick kills back and forth.

And they adopted cg's rules of 4v4 which are a representation of gamebattles and decerto, not halo dazed.

[Dazed]

Woodzy i hate to point out your contradictions but i will anyway.

Previously you state that S&D is actually your preference and it's just MW2 that makes it bad. Then you go on to say that S&D is boring and tedious and 4v4 is more exciting.

Also i'd like to ask, who goes to a LAN to watch?? People go to LANs to compete and win and to generally have a good time meeting xbox boiz.

[Twilife]

Not if we have admins like you.

Rohizzle and his dandy men will therefore remain supreme in every gametype and every game.

What does dandy mean anyway lol just popped into me head

Keyword is ALL. There's no way we'll be devoting all of our interest into 4v4. There'll be two ladders/leagues, and 'prizes and importance' will be split between them - whether equally, 10/90, 60/40 whatever. And Ziggy, how about a cup of shoosh eh?

[Pookebab]

Call me a fish because i just cant help myself.

Buzzin oh buzzin. Only reason you are any good at 4v4 is because you play it and put more effort in than anyone else. The two guns i have seen you use are the Famas and the ACR.. surely someone of your shooting ability can use a gun thats not stupidly OP? unless you need to use those guns for some reason.

You and your buddy swan continuously blame sound as the reason why snd fails. When sound has nothing to do with it, you yourself have astros.

As for how iNS. will go in 4v4.. who knows?? we have never put in the effort but if players shots are anything to go by then im sure we will do just fine.

Peace

^
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[Fray Woodzy]

Woodzy i hate to point out your contradictions but i will anyway.

Previously you state that S&D is actually your preference and it's just MW2 that makes it bad. Then you go on to say that S&D is boring and tedious and 4v4 is more exciting.

Also i'd like to ask, who goes to a LAN to watch?? People go to LANs to compete and win and to generally have a good time meeting xbox boiz.

Dazed to adress ur second paragraph, I can't because ur not making a liquors sence.

"previous" means used to be, so me saying I used to like snd on cod 4 etc then stating why "tideous" makes sence.

So What was your point dazed? I don't understand? I said snd used to be good but 4v4 is more exciting. Think you misunderstood my sentence?

As for the lans well not every1 wins (which means u watch) and most aus halo lans have decent show of spectators. Hence why there's a main stage where people can watch wats going on.

I do recall in excess of 50-100 people watching the fray v TE grandfinal in brissy and even more watching the live stream. Remember we kept losing our live feed dazed because there were 2 many people streaming at once?

So as u can see its gotta be exciting to keep people entertained and if people choose to just come watch and like wat they see then next event they may play which means bigger prize pools

[Dazed]

What i'm saying is that you state S&D the gametype, not what game its in is your preference but then you go on to bag S&D in general saying 4v4 is better. Irrespective of which CoD installment S&D is on.

[Rohizle]

Well thats just Dandy.

GG is gonna have 4v4 and S&D, so relax people.

[zzzzz]

Keyword is ALL. There's no way we'll be devoting all of our interest into 4v4. There'll be two ladders/leagues, and 'prizes and importance' will be split between them - whether equally, 10/90, 60/40 whatever. And Ziggy, how about a cup of shoosh eh?

I only said we will never change if we have admins like you, it is true because you and your team are straight Search players use are probably the most slowest paced team going around and anyone can back me up on that.

not trying to be mean but it is true we will never change.

[zzzzz]

What i'm saying is that you state S&D the gametype, not what game its in is your preference but then you go on to bag S&D in general saying 4v4 is better. Irrespective of which CoD installment S&D is on.

SnD was so good on cod4 but Mw2 is just a let down with search.

[Dazed]

soz ziggy i didnt realize Twilife and I were conjoined twins at the head who share the same opinions and thoughts about this comp.

I may be a Search player at heart but im far from a slow paced player and am definately not in a slow paced team like u state "admins" like Twilife to be.

Therefore your argument that we're racist to 4v4 because Twilife is S&D player and 1sk are supposedly slow is further from the truth than pluto from the sun.

First every decision that gets made in Cod 4 is to help fray because i was a member, now every decision in MW2 is to help 1sk coz twi is a member.

[zzzzz]

Check the poll seems like use are losing.

[Butler]

@Dazed, Thats because when people don't get there own way they blame the admins and with a community like this everyone want's different things so you are always gonna get that.

It's a shit job

[zzzzz]

And why i never listen to you dazed cause you are the worst admin going around.

[Butler]

GG will not be devoting all of it's interest into 4v4. Sweet?

It appears you are losing ziggy lolol couldn't help it

[Twilife]

I only said we will never change if we have admins like you, it is true because you and your team are straight Search players use are probably the most slowest paced team going around and anyone can back me up on that.

not trying to be mean but it is true we will never change.

You haven't been reading anything I've said or have completely misunderstood it. We can't say we're going to give all money and prizes to 4v4. We can't even say we are going to do it for SND. NOTHING HAS BEEN CONFIRMED. I'm all for whatever the community wants *repeats himself*, whether its TDM, 1v1 or 4v4 Snipers only. What do you mean 'we' will never change? Are you referring to yourself and I?

1SK is not made up of straight search players. We are actually now made up of a lot of Objective/TDM players (NiP-folk + others) and we've got a solid interest in competing in ACL, we just have to formulate a solid line up. Yes we had all our focus on SND in COD4, didn't everyone else? We have teams on every ladder bar 2v2 and are unfortunately Top 10 in all of them bar SND atm I don't get why I or my clan are considered a 'straight search player/team' if we're competing in all these, we just prefer SND.

[Butler]

And why i never listen to you dazed cause you are the worst admin going around.

See an example of what i posted before.. no matter how much effort you put in as an admin you always get ppl like this. Dazed helped get GG going again, a site which we all wanted up and going again. How is he the worst admin going? because you don't like him. Bit childish i think

[zzzzz]

Just run search but with two main ladders P2P with Search will just fail, GG left it to late.

[Pookebab]

dazed,twilife and duke helped gotgames to keepp going therefore creating an actual comp we could play, ziggy without them we would be nowhere full credit to them man u gotta remember that running this site isnt easy dude it uses alot of ur own time and effort so for you to come in here saying rules are shit we should play 4v4 is pretty pathetic if you ask me.

[zzzzz]

Yeah i got credit for twilife and duke, but dazed every post after someone is just like denying them straight up with no consideration.

[Twilife]

Duke and I wouldn't have been there without Dazed's ideas/recommendation to get us on board. Dude just settle down, Dazed did a fine job with running shit and will do it again. By the looks of it the only thing you know how to run is your mouth (well fingers) and it isn't helping!

Anyway, must be GG Head Admin nagging time.

[Fray Woodzy]

Dazed the game is mw2 naturally I meant 4v4 is better in mw2. And I did state previous if 4v4 as in demo ctf was in cod 4 I wouldn't of played them as snd on cod 4 was perfect because of maps and guns.

This games snd is fail compared to cod 4, but its objective gametypes have improved a lot more since cod 4 as ctf and demo are good as.

Ziggy u do need to calm down, they can run both yes but if they split the prizemoney etc they get from sponsors (and that's a big IF) then it won't be good.

Reason: regardless ofwhat u do for search u have to give better stuff then cg, and there's a good chance use won't. Hence why im saying u throw more money into 4v4 because cg haven't organised any cash comps yet (to my knowledge) and if u do then u have a leg up on cg.

Rohizzle prob does have a comp/ladder being organised and if he announces a 4v4 cash prize comp b4 you then
GG will become the less popular, less competitive site.

Snd is like test cricket, slowing getting worse and worse with less people giving a shit bout it cause its not exciting enough.

4v4 is coming like 20/20 as in lucrative comps (acl) which could intice sponsors, fast paced, exciting and limitless potential because its new

[zzzzz]

GG was the leading website for Cod4 but if CGi happend 2 seasons before GG died i dont think there would of been a 3rd season for GG..

So just thinking what is better for GG to compete against CGi there both are p2p, CGi annoucing a big 1st place $1,800 + 5 prestige mw2 copys, GG currently has no ladders and CG heading into CGi. But will everyone be willing to p2p for both search ladders or would they compete in one search and play in a new fresh fast paced ladder.

if it makes sense.

[dReam_]

Check the poll seems like use are losing.

If you think the poll is a reliable indicator you are dumb.

[Fray Woodzy]

Polls are reliable on GG because u can se who voted, so can take out all the non important voters I.e pc people and people who don't care bout mw2

[Twilife]

They're not really reliable though, like I said - CG has too many voters so they're unreliable, GG has too little voters so there is generally a lack of opinion, therefore unreliable.

[Rohizle]

I made some more pointless polls on CG. You can choose what section they are shown in (not every poll is whole site), and you can see who voted once the poll is completed (usually 2 weeks).

[Twilife]

I preferred Budgey's cricket analogy, Woodzy.

Its almost like Tests vs 20/20, 20/20 is a bit of fun but Tests are where the real men play.

Also, magically - I do have an idea of what the CG Admin are talking of in regards to MW2, 4v4 and whathaveyou. By means of magic, of course. Try to keep this in mind. The issue is pretty null until we get ladders, head admin input, sponsors etc.

Gonna step away for a bit, nag some people then try to come back with something a little promising.

[Fray Woodzy]

I know budgy posted that and I believe now adays his wrong. Within 2 years tests will become 4 dayers (due to lack of attendence and interest).

20/20 is worth a lot more then tests now adays hence why people are flocking to ipl and choosing that over country duties.

I prefer my statement because 20/20s like 4v4 are more exciting and people are more interested in it. Test cricket is slowly dying, like snd.

Question for budgey: are you the type of guy who likes a set routine etc in life, cause u deff don't like change in gaming lol fair enough for snd I agree when u say no perks etc is the way to go but whenever there is talk of change u always disagree.

This isn't me having a go at ya or anything but just seems in regard to gaming u aint keen on change etc